Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

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Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by Admin on Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:32 pm

Yes, they are, sorta.......and, I think it is a shame.

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by genden70 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:02 am

Do you think that these are painted after manufacture?

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by Admin on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:27 am

Based on the photos, I certainly do.

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by cadking on Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:50 pm

When you put it up against a typical example, the detail is not there, the leaves are the wrong shape, the colors are wrong, the painted design is limited to one side, etc...

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by genden70 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:49 pm

Either bidders don't know the difference or they don't care. I emailed the seller a while ago to ask about the painting, but didn't receive an answer.

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Post by genden70 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:52 pm

Just got an answer from the seller. He says that he put them under a scope and asked a dealer friend who specializes in burmese glass and they both decided that they were authentic. Go figure. He said he picked them up from a house sale.

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Post by cadking on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:26 am

I think that both the burmese glass and the paint is authentic. Yes it is real burmese glass, and yes it has real paint on it, but I don't think that the paint is original to the piece.

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by genden70 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:50 am

I agree with you, but someone overpaid for them.

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by Admin on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:09 am

Well, as with most things, there is a couple ways to look at it. Assuming the paint can be removed, the buyer got four undecorated Webb Burmese cabinet vases for about $170 each. I think a fair market value. On the other hand, if they are expecting to resell them as Webb decorated pieces, it could be a problem for them.

Considering that the bidding did not go way "over the top" I think most experienced collectors recognized them for what they are. Had they been four authentic decorated Webb vases, I would have expected the bidding to go considerably higher.

What I find most disturbing is the seller's comment "I asked a dealer friend who specializes in burmese glass and they both decided that they were authentic." I think that is the real tragedy.........if that actually occured.

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Re: Webb Burmese "hand-painted in the manner of Jules Barbe"

Post by Admin on Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:05 pm

Here are a few more examples, apparently by the same "artist". Question is, of course, Who?!

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Post by genden70 on Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:06 pm

The original Barbe work has what I call shadow leaves for want of a better term. The "shadow" leaves on this after-market work have a distinctive opaque light green paint that gives them away every time--along with the lack of detail and dimension, etc. It appears that there are a lot of these after-market pieces out there. Many of these items come from the same seller and I have emailed in the past to tactfully ask about the painting, but so far have not received a reply. I have just tried again and we will see if this seller responds.

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Post by genden70 on Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:10 pm

To amend my last post, I actually did receive a reply to a previous email, but it was not acceptable to me. I will see how he responds this time.

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