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Post by mark cozens Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:09 pm

hi everyone
new to this forum and would like some help with this item,it is marked rd176239 and i believe it is a fairy lamp.
all images i have seen of fairy lamps are all different,so could someone confirm it is a fairy lamp and any details about it,age, value and is it complete etc
many thanks mark Very Happy
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Post by jnopoinsett Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:16 pm

According to my reference information, that English registration number was issued in 1891.
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Post by mark cozens Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:42 pm

jnopoinsett wrote:According to my reference information, that English registration number was issued in 1891.
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hi jno
thanks for reply,might seem stupid but would that mean item was made in 1891
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Post by jnopoinsett Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:59 pm

Thats not a stupid queston at all. The design was registered in 1891, but that does NOT mean it was necessarily made in that year. The mold could have been used for years after that.

BTW, my thoughts are that it is a vase, not a fairy lamp base.....I'm sure somone else will chime in.

Good luck,
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Post by Admin Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:32 pm

Mark,

The Registered Design (Rd) number 176239 was recorded by Greener & Co. August 10, 1891. The Rd number is found embossed on specific fairy lamp bases, both fairy and pyramid-size. The design, however, had nothing to do with fairy lamps. Instead, the registered design was for a specific type of glass ornamentation.

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According to Jenny Thompson, The Identification of English Pressed Glass – 1842-1908, pg. 12:

"The design of August 10, 1891 (Rd 176239) …. is for a vase with the top formed by a double row of stylized leaves with the top row upright and the bottom row curving downwards. The registration is for the top alone as this piece may be found as a night light holder in both plain and colored glass but, still with the same leaf trim."

Following is how the design was used on a fairy lamp:

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And, Jno is correct, your example is a vase and not a fairy lamp.

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