A nice base for a blue Nailsea

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A nice base for a blue Nailsea

Post by cadking on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:10 am

This is listed as a rose bowl, but also shows the base with a fairy lamp in it. The shade and candle cup are also being offered by the same seller. See the base at:

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Re: A nice base for a blue Nailsea

Post by genden70 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:33 am

The seller is selling the shade and the base separately because the colors aren't an exact match. I have a nailsea citron lamp and the base and shade aren't an exact color match. The shade is a little lighter in color. Were the nailsea lamps always assembled originally as an exact match? I also see the same thing with burmese three piece lamps where the base and the shade are not an exact match in color and shading of color. Is it possible that shades and bases and inserts were made separately and the buyer assembled the pieces they wanted and they are not always an exact match? Also, I am thinking that because these lamps were often purchased by the dozen already boxed up, that you bought a box of 12 shades, a box of 12 bases and a box of 12 inserts, then put them together. I am sure someone knows the answer and I am missing the obvious. Genene

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Re: A nice base for a blue Nailsea

Post by Admin on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:44 pm

I have a couple of these bowls. However, mine will not take a fairy size cup. It will only take a pyramid-size cup. I also have another one that is considerably smaller. While they make very nice fairy lamp bases, I am not fully convinced that was their intended purpose.

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I think some of the color differences between the shade and the base can be atributed to the difference in thicknes of the glass. Bases, typically thicker than the shades.

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Re: A nice base for a blue Nailsea

Post by cadking on Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 pm

Does the small bowl/base take a wee candle cup? This might be your chance to get the hat trick of all three.
Burmese can have a lot of color variation since the color was determined by the amount of time it was exposed to the heat on the second firing.
I have see some lamps that the base and the shade must have been done at the same time as the stripe design is almost perfect (i.e. R-191 or R-770, to get these designs to match across several pieces, they would need to all be made from one piece of glass all at the same time ).
I agree that glass thickness has a lot to do with color variation due to the amount of light allowed to pass through as well as refraction. The shades are ( almost ) always the thinner piece of glass to allow light to pass. I think the glass was also worked more to achieve the shape desired for the candle, while the base wasn’t that important.
It is hard to say that these bowls weren’t designed to be Clarke bases as the openings fit many of the cup shapes. I think that if they were designed to strictly be a rose bowl, the opening diameter could be anything the glass blower wanted.

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